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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

Think of the nut cases that are walking around in our midst.

Every now and then one of them starts a bushfire.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 01:21 PM

Bush Fire Arson.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:21 PM

Today much of the country in threatened by bushfires.

One hopes that in the aftermath, if the authorities do their math, that the chain-saws will come out and that a few million trees will be felled and their stumps poisoned to stop regrowth.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:37 PM

A post on Shooting.com
"Guys i have asked this question in another pub already.
I know they are already putting stock down in the Ballarat area
My question is this are there any of you guys in Melbourne area interested in a sheep or lamb.
I have already made the phone call to see if we can help out via cash in hand for sheep that have to be destroyed.
This is already happening.
So if your interested can you please let me know ASAP.
Ill show you how to cut them up so dont sweat on that.
This is all about helping us and the farmer out.
It will be cash in the hand to the farmer.
I would need help from those interested in bringing them back.
They would be killed and gutted on site.
Cheers."
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:53 PM

Waterfall Way, east of Armidale, NSW.
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Very scenic and usually a pleasant drive to the coast via Ebor etc. but a bushfire prone area.
One could reasonably ask why are there such high trees near the road that could fall and block it?
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:51 AM

Indeed, I've driven there many times and the close proximity of the bush to the road often sees animals on the road at all times off the day. It's also windy in places which raises the risk.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:13 AM

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Let's tell the burning truth about bushfires and the ALP-Greens coalition
Miranda Devine, The Sunday Telegraph, January 13, 2013 12:00AM

WHENEVER a major bushfire catastrophe occurs in Australia, the victims are essentially told to shut up.

It happened after Victoria's Black Saturday fires in 2009. It happened after the Canberra bushfires, 10 years ago on Friday. And it's happening now in Tasmania.

"Now is not the time for that conversation," says the Tasmanian Minister for Emergency Management, David O'Byrne, avoiding questions about why adequate hazard reduction burns were not done in cooler months to remove fuel from the path of inevitable summer fires.

It's just too early, claims Premier Lara Giddings, presiding over Tasmania's ALP-Greens coalition.

But the residents of Dunalley, whose town was overrun, and the farmers whose properties and livestock have been wiped out, want that conversation right now.

Now is the time for farmers to complain that they could never get a permit to burn off excessive ground fuel on their properties.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:19 AM

The Sunday Telegraph is not a bastion of unbiased reporting. Take with large helpings of salt to taste.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:04 AM

View PostBam, on 16 January 2013 - 10:19 AM, said:

The Sunday Telegraph is not a bastion of unbiased reporting. Take with large helpings of salt to taste.

How about The Sydney Morning Herald?

Same author, same views but a few years earlier.

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Governments appeasing the green beast have ignored numerous state and federal bushfire inquiries over the past decade, almost all of which have recommended increasing the practice of "prescribed burning". Also known as "hazard reduction", it is a methodical regime of burning off flammable ground cover in cooler months, in a controlled fashion, so it does not fuel the inevitable summer bushfires.

In July 2007 Scott Gentle, the Victorian manager of Timber Communities Australia, who lives in Healesville where two fires were still burning yesterday, gave testimony to a Victorian parliamentary bushfire inquiry so prescient it sends a chill down your spine.

"Living in an area like Healesville, whether because of dumb luck or whatever, we have not experienced a fire since about 1963. God help us if we ever do, because it will make Ash Wednesday look like a picnic." God help him, he was right.

Gentle complained of obstruction from green local government authorities of any type of fire mitigation strategies. He told of green interference at Kinglake - at the epicentre of Saturday's disaster, where at least 147 people died - during a smaller fire there in 2007.
"The contractors were out working on the fire lines. They put in containment lines and cleared off some of the fire trails. Two weeks later that fire broke out, but unfortunately those trails had been blocked up again [by greens] to turn it back to its natural state. Instances like that are just too numerous to mention. Governments have been in too much of a rush to appease green idealism. This thing about locking up forests is just not working."
The Kinglake area was a nature-loving community of tree-changers, organic farmers and artists to the north of Melbourne. A council committed to reducing carbon emissions dominates the Nillumbik shire, a so-called "green wedge" area, where restrictions on removing vegetation around houses reportedly added to the dangers. In nearby St Andrews, where more than 20 people are believed to have died, surviving residents have spoken angrily of "greenies" who prevented them from cutting back trees near their property, including in one case, a tea tree that went "whoomp". Dr Phil Cheney, the former head of the CSIRO's bushfire research unit and one of the pioneers of prescribed burning, said yesterday if the fire-ravaged Victorian areas had been hazard-reduced, the flames would not have been as intense.
Kinglake and Maryville, now crime scenes,

Read more: http://www.smh.com.a...l#ixzz2IHJpuBVn


Is the SMH less of a fish an' chips wrapper?
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:20 AM

Or The Australian?

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Victoria bushfires stoked by green vote
BY: DAVID PACKHAM From: The Australian February 10, 2009 12:00AM

VICTORIA has suffered the most tragic bushfire disaster to have occurred on this continent throughout its period of human habitation.

The deaths, loss of homes and businesses and the blow to our feeling of security will take decades to fade into history. The trauma will live with the victims, who, to a greater or lesser extent, are all of us.

How could this happen when we have been told in a withering, continuous barrage of public relations that with technology and well-polished uniforms, we can cope with the unleashing of huge forces of nature.

I have been a bushfire scientist for more than 50 years, dealing with all aspects of bushfires, from prescribed burning to flame chemistry, and serving as supervisor of fire weather services for Australia. We need to understand what has happened so that we can accept or prevent future fire disasters.


That this disaster was about to happen became clear when the weather bureau issued an accurate fire weather forecast last Wednesday, which prompted me, as a private citizen, to raise the alarm through a memo distributed to concerned residents.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:36 AM

Or perhaps something more recent?

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Deadly bushfires fuelled by anti-burnoff attitudes
BY: ROGER FRANKLIN From: The Australian January 16, 2013 12:00AM 27 comments

IT is a sad thing when a near-forgotten Australian movie says more about bushfires than a week's worth of news reports, but Stork, if you can find a copy, will do just that.

(I've reproduced a still from the movie at www.quadrant. org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2013/01/the-fires-the-greens-make-us-have).

The things to notice are the background landscapes, all shot in and around Eltham, Nillumbik and adjoining areas, where almost four decades later Black Saturday claimed about two-thirds of the 173 Victorians who perished that day.

Notice the roadsides in 1971. Not too many trees, blue sky visible, light grass cover - terrain groomed by the hand of man and offering little sustenance to a runaway inferno.

I've also reproduced a picture at the same link, taken close to Black Saturday and showing a typical roadside in the same area. Even after a good scorching the death-trap density of foliage remains obvious. On Black Saturday, many died on roads like that. Even more perished in their homes, trapped by flames blocking front gates.

It requires little thought to grasp that more fuel means a bigger flame, and that removing fallen branches, bark and incendiary shrubs means a smaller one. Instead, time and again, we get case studies in what happens when a cultish green ignorance works its will on the land and public policy.

Excessive fuel loads feed massive fires? Don't be silly, say those who count themselves in nature's corner. The past week's bushfires are symptoms of global warming, according to the Climate Commission, and the only cure is taxes, inflated electricity bills, expensive air travel and an international trade in certificates signifying ownership of nothing more tangible than tranches of thin air. In distant Britain, The Guardian's reliably bizarre George Monbiot declared volunteer fireman Tony Abbott an eco-arsonist for opposing carbon taxes.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:00 AM

View PostRoderick, on 18 January 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

How about The Sydney Morning Herald?

Same author, same views but a few years earlier.


Is the SMH less of a fish an' chips wrapper?

Seems to me the SMH was airing views in favour of hazard reduction in this case.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:51 AM

View Postscotto, on 18 January 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

Seems to me the SMH was airing views in favour of hazard reduction in this case.

Course it was and diametrically opposed to the ideas that the local Greens espoused.

The Greens, in a typically hypocritical move, have now changed their policy to include hazard reduction, but they are totally opposed to cutting down and removing the millions of trees that will have to go if the roads are ever to be made safe and to have any chance of acting as firebreaks.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

When all of the current fires are over houses that burn like tinder will continue to be built in bushfire prone areas.

I wonder will we ever learn?
Will the politicians, who can make a difference, ever learn?

Fireproof housing techniques have been around for thousands of years.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:19 PM

View PostRoderick, on 18 January 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

Course it was and diametrically opposed to the ideas that the local Greens espoused.

The Greens, in a typically hypocritical move, have now changed their policy to include hazard reduction, but they are totally opposed to cutting down and removing the millions of trees that will have to go if the roads are ever to be made safe and to have any chance of acting as firebreaks.

The remnant bushland on road verges all over the country is often the only available habitat for wildlife. If it is removed, what will replace it? Only a holistic approach that considers all the stakeholders will produce good outcomes for all.

Removing roadside trees is sensible. It make the roads safer by removing trees that can fall across the road in fires, or in storms. It also removes potential points of impact for single-vehicle crashes. Another benefit is the creating of better "long paddocks" although there are better drought management techniques available.

So the wildlife is not affected, the removed trees will need to be replaced with new habitat nearby so that wildlife is not killed by being displaced. Sometimes the trees themselves can be converted into nesting sites (hollowed-out trees make good nests for parrots and possums). Plantings of new habitat with locally-native plants would also be needed, in such a manner as to be as connected as possible. Farmers and other land owners can even claim carbon credits for these plantings on the less useful portions of their land.

Controlled burns are also crucial, mimicking nature but in a less destructive manner. But do these themselves do harm? If a fire is not hot enough to propagate particular varieties of trees or shrubs, is the fire harmful to the survival of these plants? I don't know of any plants where this may be the case, but it does no harm to consider the possibility.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:18 PM

Things that happen, fortunately this was not in a bushfire......

From the Glen Innes Examiner of Thursday, 17th Jan. 2003.

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A fallen tree caused mayhem just South of Glen Innes on Monday morning. The tree fell across the highway ..... 12:10 am.

A sedan as well as a B-double travelling in opposite directions [hit the tree] The sedan suffered major damage and had to be towed ..... only minor damage to the truck. [there were no injuries]


It can happen anywhere big trees are near the roadway.
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