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Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:05 PM

because it is going to cause some angst in certain circles.

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Working gun made with 3D printer
By Rebecca Morelle
Science reporter, BBC World Service, Texas

The BBC's Rebecca Morelle saw the 3D-printed gun's first test in Austin, Texas

The world's first gun made with 3D printer technology has been successfully fired in the US.

The controversial group which created the firearm, Defense Distributed, plans to make the blueprints available online.

The group has spent a year trying to create the firearm, which was successfully tested on Saturday at a firing range south of Austin, Texas.

Anti-gun campaigners have criticised the project.

Europe's law enforcement agency said it was monitoring developments.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:07 AM

Didn't take long for the antis to jump on the band wagon.

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Printed weapon triggers gun control concern
By science and technology reporter Jake Sturmer
Updated 3 hours 38 minutes ago

A US anarchist has successfully test fired a gun made from a 3D printer, triggering concern amongst gun control activists.

3D printers - available for less than $1,000 - work by printing layer upon layer of plastic, building objects from virtual blueprints.

University of Texas law student Cody Wilson, 25, fired the weapon in Austin, Texas on Saturday.

The company he founded, Defense Distributed, spent a year developing the weapon.

"I recognise that the tool might be used to harm other people - that's what it is - it's a gun," Mr Wilson said.

"But... I don't think that's a reason not to do it or put it out there."

The 25-year-old has distributed the computer aided design (CAD) file online, making it available for download by anyone, anywhere. . . .

He calls his movement "the dawn of the wiki weapon", saying printable guns are just the beginning.

"We thought how interesting would it be not just to 3D print a gun, but to open source it and then allow anyone in the world to 3D print a gun, regardless of whatever their laws had to say," he said. . . .

Gun control advocates in Australia are urging state and federal governments to consider regulating 3D printers.

Gun Control Australia spokeswoman Sam Lee said the difficulty was making sure they could not be used to make weapons.

"These machines are probably not just used for assembling firearms, they may be used for harmless purposes," she said.
[if these are her words then she is really out of touch]
"So the challenge will be how do you regulate those machines?"

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Go for it Samantha, best of luck. :)
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:42 AM

Even more

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You Think We Have Lots of Guns Now...

PAUL WALDMAN MAY 6, 2013
What happens when you can make as many guns as you want with your 3-D printer?

There's even more exciting gun news today, coming from a small nonprofit organization called Defense Distributed. They announced that they have successfully test-fired a gun made almost entirely in a 3-D printer. The only part that wasn't 3-D printed was the firing pin. And the bullet, of course. Now previously, people had made gun components in 3-D printers, but prior tests of entire weapons had been unsuccessful. This raises some rather troubling questions, which we'll get to in a moment. But first, here's their short video, which shows the firing and construction of the gun, inexplicably interspersed with shots of World War II-era bombers:


at and more.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:10 PM

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Printable Gun Downloads Top 100k In 2 Days, Thanks to Kim Dotcom
Posted by timothy on Thursday May 09, 2013 @10:55AM
from the please-be-careful-out-there dept.
Sparrowvsrevolution writes

"The promise of a fully 3D-printable gun is that it can spread via the Internet and entirely circumvent gun control laws. Two days after that digital weapon's blueprint first appeared online, it seems to be fulfilling that promise. Files for the printable gun known as that 'Liberator' have been downloaded more than 100,000 times in two days, according to Defense Distributed, the group that created it. Those downloads were facilitated by Kim Dotcom's startup Mega, which Defense Distributed is using to host the Liberator's CAD files. And it's also been uploaded to the Pirate Bay, where it's one of the most popular files in the filesharing site's uncensorable 3D printing category."

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 06:31 PM

There is a good article on 3d printing on Wikipedia at Here

This is the technology that is particularly worrying to the anti-progress brigade

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Electron beam melting (EBM) is a similar type of additive manufacturing technology for metal parts (e.g. titanium alloys). EBM manufactures parts by melting metal powder layer by layer with an electron beam in a high vacuum. Unlike metal sintering techniques that operate below melting point, EBM parts are fully dense, void-free, and very strong


Obviously very expensive but the prices of these things inevitably fall.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 06:39 PM

My biggest concern is that it makes it possible to smuggle a plastic gun onto an aircraft. Need new technology to detect these.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:00 PM

View PostBam, on 10 May 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

My biggest concern is that it makes it possible to smuggle a plastic gun onto an aircraft. Need new technology to detect these.

The answer to that problem is the Israel one. Armed personnel on board who will not hesitate to kill.
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Posted 11 May 2013 - 04:49 PM

View PostRoderick, on 10 May 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

The answer to that problem is the Israel one. Armed personnel on board who will not hesitate to kill.

Bad idea. What happens if a bullet pierces the hull of an aircraft at cruising altitude?

It is possible with current technology to have a scanner create images in three dimensions that would allow plastic guns to be detected even if they are transparent to X-rays.
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Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:31 PM

View PostBam, on 11 May 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

Bad idea. What happens if a bullet pierces the hull of an aircraft at cruising altitude?

Next to nothing, a tiny amount of air escapes but a business card over, or a tissue in, it stops the air.

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It is possible with current technology to have a scanner create images in three dimensions that would allow plastic guns to be detected even if they are transparent to X-rays.

True, but what if the hijacker or whatever assembles a gun from otherwise un-recognized bits once on board, or if a gun has been smuggled on board by another person?

As far as I can find out no Israeli plane has been hijacked since the Israel security member on the plane shot the last would be hijacker.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:27 AM

View PostRoderick, on 11 May 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

True, but what if the hijacker or whatever assembles a gun from otherwise un-recognized bits once on board, or if a gun has been smuggled on board by another person?

As far as I can find out no Israeli plane has been hijacked since the Israel security member on the plane shot the last would be hijacker.

What happens if someone surprises the person with the gun and takes their gun off them?

A gun can be made to point both ways!
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 12:38 PM

View PostBam, on 14 May 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

What happens if someone surprises the person with the gun and takes their gun off them?

A gun can be made to point both ways!

First they would need to know who had the gun and then they would need to know the other security person.
Why would you think that the armed personnel only have one gun"
Cabin doors are also locked on many aircraft and the pilots armed, but not on Australian 'planes as that would not be fair to criminals.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:49 PM

More gun porn, eh?
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:52 PM

View Postscotto, on 14 May 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

More gun porn, eh?

Indeed and if you want to see real gun porn then proceedeth hence Front Stuffers
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:46 PM

The 'Liberator' has gone from being a rather clumsy looking single shof to being a revolving pistol Here, such is the media.
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Posted 24 May 2013 - 06:03 PM

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NSW Police 'terrified' 3D plastic guns will make way to Sydney streets
by: MARK MORRI
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May 24, 2013 11:58AM

24 May 2013

NSW Police are terrified a frightening new weapon, a plastic gun made from downloading a file that is 'built' by a 3D printer, will eventually be used on the streets of Sydney.
Known as “The Liberator” more than 100,000 people worldwide including Australia have downloaded the instructions on how to make the gun.

The 3D guns are made of thermo-plastic or synthetic material which makes them undetectable in airport X-ray machines which police say will have global terrorism implications.



Read more: http://www.news.com....0#ixzz2UCJzth9c


Higly inaccurate sensationalism, but then that's to be expected of the news media.
Plastics are defectable by airport scanners, they detect plastic objects every day.
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 02:01 PM

View PostRoderick, on 14 May 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

First they would need to know who had the gun and then they would need to know the other security person.
Why would you think that the armed personnel only have one gun

It doesn't matter how many guns someone carries. It only takes one cocked and pointed gun to kill. A second gun cannot be retrieved, aimed and cocked in the time it takes to pull a trigger. Anyone that is making a motion that looks like a gun is at the end of it will not get the chance to complete that motion.
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 02:05 PM

3D printing expert hoses down fears of homemade gun surge

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An expert in the technology of 3D printing has questioned fears it could spark a mass proliferation of homemade guns on Australia's streets.

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Dr Robert Gorkin from the University of Wollongong is researching the use of 3D printing to recreate human tissue.

He does not think a mass proliferation of home-printed guns is likely.

"There's a concept that there's a fully printed gun that you can just go online and download it, and it's ready to go, and if I buy a home printer I can actually do that," he said.

"That doesn't exist right now."

Dr Gorkin says even high-end printers have not been able to produce a gun that is reliable, accurate, can be repeatedly shot, and will not possibly explode when fired.
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostBam, on 25 May 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

It doesn't matter how many guns someone carries. It only takes one cocked and pointed gun to kill. A second gun cannot be retrieved, aimed and cocked in the time it takes to pull a trigger. Anyone that is making a motion that looks like a gun is at the end of it will not get the chance to complete that motion.

Where on Earth did yoy get the idea that it is not possible to draw against a cocked gun and not fire first?
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 03:55 PM

View PostBam, on 25 May 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:


He's quite right but what the technology does show is the futility of anti-gun laws.

There is no chance that criminals are going to print guns when they can import them by devious means or get them through the post; besides which a steel one can be made in less time than it takes to do a printed one.
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Posted 30 May 2013 - 04:31 PM

View PostRoderick, on 25 May 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

Where on Earth did yoy get the idea that it is not possible to draw against a cocked gun and not fire first?

I suppose if the person pointing the gun was so incredibly stupid and clueless that they would actually wait and see what the other person is doing before pulling the trigger, then we just might have a situation where someone actually has the time to retrieve a second gun, aim it and fire it.

It's not believable that someone with a cocked and pointed gun will actually be stupid enough to allow this. Anyone with any common sense at all in this situation won't wait and see - they will pull the trigger on any suspicious movement.

For that matter, where do you get the idea that someone with a gun is invincible?
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