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News of the World Hacking Scandal Rupert Murdoch's troubles have only just begun...

#1 User is offline   JJ 

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 03:24 AM

Can't believe we don't have a thread for this here. Sean Hoare, the first whistleblower to report shoddy phone hacking practices at News of the World, has been found dead. Police are treating the death as "unexplained, but not suspicious", whatever the hell that means.

The Guardian has more - http://www.guardian....orld-sean-hoare

This chart might also be helpful to understand how everyone in this rapidly unfolding story is connected:
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Posted 19 July 2011 - 08:35 AM

You're right - we've missed it. I have to make a comment about something that nowhere else has been examined: what exactly is the nature of the relationship between Murdock and Brooks? Have you seen footage of them greeting each other and walking together? Pictures of Rupert looking at Rebecca?

I think there's a very rich back story in the relationships of some of these people to each other - the loyalties and what ties them together.
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Posted 19 July 2011 - 05:12 PM

JJ: Great diagram. How safe is Cameron?
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Posted 19 July 2011 - 09:59 PM

View PostGeorgeParsons, on 19 July 2011 - 05:12 PM, said:

JJ: Great diagram. How safe is Cameron?

This depends on whether he can maintain plausible deniability.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 12:21 AM

View PostGeorgeParsons, on 19 July 2011 - 05:12 PM, said:

JJ: Great diagram. How safe is Cameron?

It's unclear.. he's under a lot of pressure, that's for sure. Murdoch confirming tonight that he entered No. 10 through the back door can't help the perception that he was far too close to the mogul. I'm sure he'll be under a lot of fire come the Wednesday sitting of parliament.

View PostBam, on 19 July 2011 - 09:59 PM, said:

This depends on whether he can maintain plausible deniability.

Hopefully not! :)
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:57 AM

Looking really bad for Cameron now. Neil Wallis was advising Andy Coulson while he was working for David Cameron. Basically, putting Cameron even deeper into it.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 02:08 AM

The left-wing completely destroyed their crucifixion of Murdoch. I'll bet there are a number of people quietly cursing that pie throwing loon.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 05:24 AM

Yep, what an idiot. Sigh.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 09:18 AM

View PostJulian Taylor, on 20 July 2011 - 02:08 AM, said:

The left-wing completely destroyed their crucifixion of Murdoch. I'll bet there are a number of people quietly cursing that pie throwing loon.

At least the pie-throwing loon didn't hack into the phones of thousands of people. What is one isolated incident when balanced against these thousands of crimes?

It's difficult now not to think of News Limited and its subsidiaries as an organised crime network, the Media Mafia if you will. Crime, persecution, bribes to police ... not that different to the Mafia!
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 02:24 PM

Yeah, agree totally Bam.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:05 PM

View PostJulian Taylor, on 20 July 2011 - 02:08 AM, said:

The left-wing completely destroyed their crucifixion of Murdoch. I'll bet there are a number of people quietly cursing that pie throwing loon.

The pie stunt was a total wank, but I was thinking even before the hearing that the parliamentary enquiry was a bit of puffery - after all, it was always going to fall to police to prosecute wrongdoers rather than the parliament just giving them a hard time on TV. Hardened business types like Murdoch and his editors will always front up to such a hearing rather than answer hard questions from the cops.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 04:40 PM

Agreed, the commission is 100% political fluff. It had the potential to create a PR nightmare for Murdoch, but instead it has worked to his tangible benefit.

The questioning was already a limp and inept affair - and then a pie throwing 'comedian' goes and grabs all the headlines by being slapped down by Murdoch's wife. A missed opportunity all round for Murdoch's detractors.

But then I'm not one to judge on criminal matters before the particulars of the case become apparent.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 08:35 AM

I can only say that I hope the police over there take them to the cleaners. I'm sure I'm not the only person that feels this way.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 09:56 AM

View PostJulian Taylor, on 20 July 2011 - 02:08 AM, said:

The left-wing completely destroyed their crucifixion of Murdoch. I'll bet there are a number of people quietly cursing that pie throwing loon.



Sets one to thinking - who benefitted most from the slapstick routine.....nah, News wouldn't do anything underhand, surely....;)
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 10:02 AM

View PostHDMC, on 21 July 2011 - 09:56 AM, said:

Sets one to thinking - who benefitted most from the slapstick routine.....nah, News wouldn't do anything underhand, surely....;)

no wayyyyyy....... :(
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:01 AM

View PostHDMC, on 21 July 2011 - 09:56 AM, said:

Sets one to thinking - who benefitted most from the slapstick routine.....nah, News wouldn't do anything underhand, surely....;)

We could take a few lessons from the News Corporation textbook and say they were behind this stunt in big banner headlines on page 1. Then if it is not true after all, we publish a one-paragraph retraction buried on page 32 a week later.

So you are the sub editor, what banner headlines would you choose for this? No more than four words, no more than five letters per word.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 03:36 PM

View PostBam, on 21 July 2011 - 11:01 AM, said:

We could take a few lessons from the News Corporation textbook and say they were behind this stunt in big banner headlines on page 1. Then if it is not true after all, we publish a one-paragraph retraction buried on page 32 a week later.

So you are the sub editor, what banner headlines would you choose for this? No more than four words, no more than five letters per word.

"Lefty Leftie hooks Rupe"

"Rupe's Babe Slaps Slapper"

"Lefty Hooks Rupe"
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 03:56 PM

View PostJulian Taylor, on 20 July 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

But then I'm not one to judge on criminal matters before the particulars of the case become apparent.


View Postscotto, on 21 July 2011 - 08:35 AM, said:

I can only say that I hope the police over there take them to the cleaners. I'm sure I'm not the only person that feels this way.


Yep, to the cleaners the looney should go ......

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Jonathan May-Bowles, who also goes by the name "Jonnie Marbles," is scheduled to appear at the City of Westminster court in London on July 29.


May-Bowles, 26, who is out on bail, describes himself as an "activist, ...... father figure ....." !!!

And to HDMC, Scotto, and even the mostly level headed Bam, with their apparitions of "commies under the bed", I say that talk is cheap. Lefties chucking stuff and gnashing their teeth are a dime a dozen.

Give us something substantive other than a "cheap shot" (which I will freely admit to when guilty of delivering same).
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:23 PM

View Posticey, on 21 July 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

Yep, to the cleaners the looney should go ......



May-Bowles, 26, who is out on bail, describes himself as an "activist, ...... father figure ....." !!!

And to HDMC, Scotto, and even the mostly level headed Bam, with their apparitions of "commies under the bed", I say that talk is cheap. Lefties chucking stuff and gnashing their teeth are a dime a dozen.

Give us something substantive other than a "cheap shot" (which I will freely admit to when guilty of delivering same).

You know, I realise that's in English but it makes no sense.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:27 PM

Master Scotto, I can wait till you complete year 8.
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