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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:21 AM

The Victorian Liberals must no doubt be a big disappointment for anyone who voted for them. Already they have been implicated in scandals:

Firstly, parliamentary secretary for police MP Bill Tilley lurches from one scandal to the next:
Lib MP in Sir Ken leak

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A SENIOR member of the Baillieu government leaked confidential information that severely damaged the reputation of former deputy police commissioner Sir Ken Jones, an Age investigation has revealed.

Parliamentary secretary for police Bill Tilley leaked to the media - without Sir Ken's approval - excerpts of a private email sent by the policeman to his wife. In the email, Sir Ken outlined bungled circumstances that led to a February meeting with the Premier's chief-of-staff, Michael Kapel, and his concerns that the government had misinterpreted his actions.

Premier Ted Baillieu refused to comment on this:
Baillieu mum on Sir Ken email scandal

Then it gets worse for Tilley:
Victorian MP's staffer involved in bomb hoax

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A Victorian Government MP's electorate officer has been caught promoting an anti-carbon tax stunt in which a protester was to try to smuggle a fake bomb into Federal Parliament.


There's a lot more as well.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:29 AM

View PostBam, on 22 September 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

Then it gets worse for Tilley:
Victorian MP's staffer involved in bomb hoax

I read about this one - surely one of the most boneheaded moves of recent times? Rivalling Godwin Grech's utegate email?
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Posted 01 October 2011 - 08:48 PM

And yet this guy still enjoys his seat in Parliament. Surely he's shown his complete incompetence and should no longer enjoy the support of the Liberal National coalition. But then the Baillieu government hasn't really shown any concrete examples of how it's improving the state considering how frequently we were told they could do a much better job at running the state.
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:37 AM

View PostAlexSchlotzer, on 01 October 2011 - 08:48 PM, said:

And yet this guy still enjoys his seat in Parliament. Surely he's shown his complete incompetence and should no longer enjoy the support of the Liberal National coalition. But then the Baillieu government hasn't really shown any concrete examples of how it's improving the state considering how frequently we were told they could do a much better job at running the state.

It's that time-honoured small target strategy, such as we are seeing play out in NSW.
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:24 PM

View Postscotto, on 04 October 2011 - 07:37 AM, said:

It's that time-honoured small target strategy, such as we are seeing play out in NSW.


It sure is that time-honoured small target strategy in play. Though I think Baillieu has taken it to a new level by hardly being seen either.
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Posted 06 October 2011 - 09:52 AM

View PostAlexSchlotzer, on 05 October 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

It sure is that time-honoured small target strategy in play. Though I think Baillieu has taken it to a new level by hardly being seen either.

Have you seen the latest - some Liberal staffers sacked for blogging VERY negatively about Ballieu? The news of this was actually withheld but leaked by yet another blogger.
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Posted 06 October 2011 - 06:07 PM

So it's OK to plan a bomb hoax against Federal Parliament, as long as one does not write negative blog entries against Baillieu while doing it. :rolleyes:
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:02 AM

View PostBam, on 06 October 2011 - 06:07 PM, said:

So it's OK to plan a bomb hoax against Federal Parliament, as long as one does not write negative blog entries against Baillieu while doing it. :rolleyes:

I think you've got it. At least we know the rules now.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:36 PM

Oh the tangled web of spin the Baillieu government weaves and they haven't been in government for a year yet.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:47 PM

And more scandal today: Pair resign over damning OPI report

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A damning Office of Police Integrity (OPI) report has triggered the resignations of Victoria's parliamentary secretary for police and a government adviser.

The OPI found Police Minister Peter Ryan's adviser, Tristan Weston, was "heavily involved" in a campaign against the former police chief commissioner Simon Overland.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:35 AM

The minister needs to go too.At the very best he is incompetent.As for the premier...words fail me!
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:38 AM

It is interesting to compare the conduct of Tilley and the Victorian Liberal party with the Thomson affair in Federal politics. It shows the obvious hypocrisy of the Liberal party.

The political situation is similar in both cases - both governments can fall if one by-election causes them to lose a member.

The Federal Labor party has been paying Thomson's legal bills. The Federal Liberals make a fuss about this.
Now get this - the Victorian taxpayers are paying Tilley's legal bills. Why is this even allowed? If the Liberals are to be consistent with their own rhetoric in Federal Parliament, Tilley should be paying his own legal bills. If the Liberals are to be consistent with the conduct of the Labor party, the Liberal party should pay the legal bills.

Federally, the Liberal party are calling for Thomson's resignation from Parliament.
Yet the Liberals see no reason for Tilley to resign from State parliament, claiming that taxpayers' money should not be wasted on a by-election. Really? Firstly, how much more does this clown have to do before the Liberals see how unfit he is to serve in Parliament? And secondly, it's apparently OK for taxpayers to pay for Tilley's legal bills, but not OK for taxpayers to pay for him to be replaced?

And we are still in the first year of this government! We still have to put up with three more years of this bullshit!
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:24 AM

View PostBam, on 27 October 2011 - 07:47 PM, said:

And more scandal today: Pair resign over damning OPI report

This was frankly unbelievable. Who were these people?
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:42 AM

The police minister resorts to the Sergeant Schulz defence: I know nothing. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, the Government resort to fiddling the books to maintain a budget surplus by reducing the time for home buyers to pay stamp duty from 90 days to 30 days starting on April 1 next year. (Stamp duty payment deadline slashed to aid budget surplus)
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:33 AM

View PostBam, on 29 October 2011 - 05:42 AM, said:

The police minister resorts to the Sergeant Schulz defence: I know nothing. :rolleyes:

Yes, it was the technique that John Howard used consistently in his time to avoid the stench of corruption escaping to the general population.
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:48 PM

View PostBam, on 29 October 2011 - 05:42 AM, said:

The police minister resorts to the Sergeant Schulz defence: I know nothing. :rolleyes:


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Sergeant Schultz, if you please.



And Gillard in the eyes of the Australian public:

"There will be no carbon tax under a government that I lead".

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 08:12 PM

View Posticey, on 29 October 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

And Gillard in the eyes of the Australian public:

"There will be no carbon tax under a government that I lead".

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This is offtopic, icey, and you know this. This thread discusses the issues with the Victorian Government, particularly the scandals that have dogged their first year in office. Your attempt to hijack yet another thread with posts on this topic is wearing thin and I must ask you to stop doing this.

You should post the above elsewhere in a more appropriate thread. The Federal Politics board may have a suitable thread for this.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:07 PM

View PostBam, on 29 October 2011 - 08:12 PM, said:

This is offtopic, icey, and you know this.


No, I did not know this, at least, not as I posted it.

You are right however and I was off topic. I apologise.

In mitigation, I offer the tangent, your Sergeant Schultz from Hogan's Heroes, where I responded with the more recent sit-com, "Yes Prime Minister" replete it's depiction of a big-nosed PM. Off-topic or not, imho it was amusing.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 08:28 AM

View Posticey, on 29 October 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:

You are right however and I was off topic. I apologise.

wow... that's like the scene in 2001 where the chimps grab the bones and start using them as tools.... :rolleyes: ... well done!
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 08:57 AM

View Postscotto, on 31 October 2011 - 08:28 AM, said:

wow... that's like the scene in 2001 where the chimps grab the bones and start using them as tools.... :rolleyes: ... well done!


At the risk of setting myself up for further shame, do you mean that my expression of remorse was neanderthal in nature? :unsure:
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