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Liberal Vs, Labor. Who do you support. I don't know if this is in the right forum.

#1 User is offline   KeepDavidHarris 

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 06:34 AM

Who do you support?

I am a member of the Labor Party NSW branch. Therefore, I support the Labor party. Going campaigning in Cessnock today.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 07:06 AM

I am a member of the ALP. I joined when I was 17.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 09:16 AM

Federally, I support the Independents but without the Independents I tend towards Labor
State based, I tend to support the Nationals unless a decent Independent pops up.
I consider myself a swinging voter.

I am not a member of any party. I often consider sending off an application to both parties at the same time so I can successfully and correctly tick the box that says I'm not a member of any other political party.

I often toy with the idea of starting my own party - the Jobs Party or something like that. After all the Constitution of both Labor and Liberal (I don't know about the Nationals) say they both believe in Full Employment. However I don't believe they believe in the correct definition of Full Employment (what we saw under Chifley, Curtin & Menzies earlier terms) but they believe in the mythical Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment (NAIRU) of Full Employment.

It is mythical because the models keep changing the value of the NAIRU from 8% to 4% to 5% over the past 3 or 4 decades. Also after discussing how to get a motion through a local branch with a Labor member I determined it is near impossible to succeed. It requires at least a generation to convince people to change their thoughts and I don't think I have that sort of time to waste.

I think it is a travesty and a tragedy that the current orthodox economics keeps a buffer stock of unemployed in an attempt to keep the inflation rate stable. Especially given the health costs and social disorders that come from being unemployed for a significant period of time.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 10:55 AM

I have absolutely no time for the Australian Greens, as much as I think Labor is a gigantic waste of time I would rather see them win a marginal seat than the Greens.

Though, I can't wait to see the Libs smash Labor in March, it will be like a solar eclipse because the Liberals barely win anything in NSW so it should be fun.

No offense to the thread creator though, your party will be back in government by 2015 I can guarantee.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:41 PM

View Postjohnsmith, on 16 January 2011 - 10:55 AM, said:

I have absolutely no time for the Australian Greens, as much as I think Labor is a gigantic waste of time I would rather see them win a marginal seat than the Greens.

Though, I can't wait to see the Libs smash Labor in March, it will be like a solar eclipse because the Liberals barely win anything in NSW so it should be fun.

No offense to the thread creator though, your party will be back in government by 2015 I can guarantee.


No offense taken. I think saying that Labor will be back in government is a bit of pre-empting. Given the current state.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:45 PM

NSW is a very Labor state as you can most probably grasp. Lib governments have a very quick expiry date here as Western Sydney is usually a Labor stronghold and it holds a pretty big chunk of the electorate, I wouldn't rule out a comeback in the near future.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 03:21 PM

I'm Labor - i'm not a member of the party however I helped out in Bennelong in the federal election and I will be helping out in Epping for the state election.
I'm unsure who to actually vote for in the state election though. The power sell off was the last straw for me. I don't *think* the ALP will get my first preference. But I don't want to vote Green either so I have to think about it. I won't be voting Liberal though.

Out of interest where can I change my profile i.e. my personal details.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 03:30 PM

Sadly my State vote will go to the Nationals unless a decent Independent comes along.

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 03:33 PM

When I go to 'about me' it says "This user has not configured their 'About Me' page and has not added a signature to their account yet".
I want to change my birthday etc.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 03:38 PM

You may have to take that to technical support. I had no problem going Settings > Profile > About Me

You can only change things under Settings, everything else is just a link to what you have all ready set up.

Given I know the Nationals will win the seat I'm in regardless, it will be interesting if their opposition rhetoric matches their actions once the Coalition is in power.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 05:27 PM

I quite like Andrew Stoner's policy for learner drivers, they do twenty hours less but have to pass an advanced driving course. The Nationals should have an interesting lookout for the next 4 years.

@Vogon, I'm very glad that you won't be voting for the Greens, they aren't worth the stuff they spin. Labor will always be better than the Greens and would always get a higher preference from me. Anyone who says they aren't voting Liberal but aren't going to vote Greens either is alright in my books.

I hope we see a few more Independents take some marginal Labor seats like Newcastle. Do you think under a Coalition government the current Independent Speaker will retain his post?
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 06:20 PM

View Postjohnsmith, on 16 January 2011 - 05:27 PM, said:

Do you think under a Coalition government the current Independent Speaker will retain his post?


Yes.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 06:21 PM

I'd hope so, an Independent Speaker is a rare sight and now that they've got one it keeps the function of the parliament unbiased.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 08:17 AM

Was rusted on Labor supporter but after the ascension of Gillard and the demise of Rudd my vote is up for grabs at the next election.
NSW Labor need to go, time for a clean out.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:18 PM

Solid Greens here, but I see that the usual "evil Greens" stuff is trotted out without any substantive argument.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:48 PM

View PostLiverpudlian, on 19 January 2011 - 04:18 PM, said:

Solid Greens here, but I see that the usual "evil Greens" stuff is trotted out without any substantive argument.


Maybe you are overly sensitive as I did not see any reference on this thread to the Greens being evil.

Till now.

Their ideology is evil, their leader has lost the plot, and the Australian public are amazed at the unholy ALP alliance. Even (now passé) ex-PM Rudd downgrades climate change to number seven on his list of important things to fret about while meantime Brown politicises our flood tragedies with his nonsensical accusations.

That said, I like the DLP and Family First. What's not to like?
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:59 PM

View Posticey, on 19 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

Maybe you are overly sensitive as I did not see any reference on this thread to the Greens being evil.

Till now.

Their ideology is evil, their leader has lost the plot, and the Australian public are amazed at the unholy ALP alliance. Even (now passé) ex-PM Rudd downgrades climate change to number seven on his list of important things to fret about while meantime Brown politicises our flood tragedies with his nonsensical accusations.

That said, I like the DLP and Family First. What's not to like?


What about Abbott? "Drop the NBN for the floods". It was clearly politically motivated.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:08 PM

Do me a favour, Icey - don't post responses to me. You haven't changed a bit, and you pretty much single-handedly drove most people away from Ozforums with your boring diatribes.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:35 PM

View PostLiverpudlian, on 19 January 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

Do me a favour, Icey - don't post responses to me. You haven't changed a bit, and you pretty much single-handedly drove most people away from Ozforums with your boring diatribes.


Oh come on Liver'.

Ascribing remarkably great powers to my forum input is nothing if not bizarre.

You are unable to ignore (if not counter) an opinion with which you do not agree?

Thicken the skin. Loosen up. Life goes on. For me and for you irrespective of the other's opinion or "boring diatribes"..
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 09:44 PM

Greenie, tbh. Labor are too interested in being populist rather than making change (and have moved too far to the right I feel) and I could never in a million years vote Liberal.
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