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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:14 AM

View Postscotto, on 08 August 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

Sure, they can do that. How about that paranoia?

No paranoia, just common sense.
So why are they not allowed to have their service pistol at home?

Lack of trust or an objection driven by ideology or politics?
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:22 AM

paranoia.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:25 AM

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paranoia.


Ah! The usual in depth argument. :D
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:26 AM

View PostRoderick, on 08 August 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

No paranoia, just common sense.
So why are they not allowed to have their service pistol at home?

Lack of trust or an objection driven by ideology or politics?

No idea why you're asking me that. I've already said I have no problem with it.

Now - your paranoia?
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:50 AM

View Postscotto, on 08 August 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

No idea why you're asking me that. I've already said I have no problem with it.

Now - your paranoia?

Of course you have no problem with it, but that was not what I asked.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:53 AM

View PostRoderick, on 08 August 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

Of course you have no problem with it, but that was not what I asked.

Ask someone that has a problem with it.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 11:11 AM

View Postscotto, on 08 August 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

Ask someone that has a problem with it.

Thought that someone on a Discussion Forum might have had some views; my mistake.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 11:21 AM

View PostRoderick, on 08 August 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Thought that someone on a Discussion Forum might have had some views; my mistake.

I've talked about plenty of things; pity no one's interested in this point, for your sake, but that's how it goes.

How's the paranoia going? Perhaps you don't want to talk about it.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:30 PM

View Postscotto, on 08 August 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

I've talked about plenty of things; pity no one's interested in this point, for your sake, but that's how it goes.

How's the paranoia going? Perhaps you don't want to talk about it.

Any time you wish to discuss your evident unreasonable fear of firearms then I'm at your convenience; John Howard also suffers from such fears.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:33 PM

View PostRoderick, on 08 August 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Any time you wish to discuss your evident unreasonable fear of firearms then I'm at your convenience; John Howard also suffers from such fears.

Evident in what way? I don't see it.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:09 PM

View Postscotto, on 08 August 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Evident in what way? I don't see it.

The affected are usually the last to see the problem, witness John Howard.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:16 PM

View PostRoderick, on 08 August 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

The affected are usually the last to see the problem, witness John Howard.

That's a totally unintelligible comment. Also....... booga, booga!
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 05:05 PM

View Postscotto, on 08 August 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

That's a totally unintelligible comment. Also....... booga, booga!

Not surprised :D
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Clearwater, Fla.: At 1:05 a.m., a man started banging on a patio door, briefly left to beat on the family's truck, but returned and tore open the patio door. At that point, after numerous shouts not to break into the home, a 16-year-old boy fired a single rifle shot, wounding the attacker.

Columbia, S.C.: As two gas station employees left work just after midnight, two men attempted to rob them. The sheriff told a local television station: "Two men came out of the bushes, one of the men had a shovel handle that had been broken off and began to beat [the male employee] . . . about the head, neck and then the arms." The male employee broke away long enough to draw a handgun from his pocket and wound his attacker, who later died. The second suspect, turned in by relatives, faces armed robbery and possible murder charges.

Detroit: A mentally disturbed man yelled that the president was going to have him killed and started firing at people in passing cars. A man at the scene, who had a permit to carry a concealed handgun, fired shots that forced the attacker to stop shooting and run away. The attacker barricaded himself in an empty apartment, fired at police and ultimately committed suicide.

West Palm Beach, Fla.: After being beaten during a robbery at his home just two days earlier, a homeowner began carrying a handgun in his pocket. When another robber attacked him, the homeowner shot and wounded his assailant.

Grand Junction, Colo.: On his way home from work, a contractor picked up three young hitchhikers. He fixed them a steak dinner at his house and was preparing to offer them jobs. Two of the men grabbed his kitchen knives and started stabbing him in the back, head and hands. The attackers stopped only when he told them that he could give them money. Instead of money, the contractor grabbed a pistol and shot one of the attackers. The contractor said, "If I'd had a trigger lock, I'd be dead."

Columbia Falls, Mont.: An ex-boyfriend is accused of entering a woman's home and sexually assaulting her. She got away long enough to get her handgun and hold her attacker at gunpoint until police arrived.

Salt Lake City: Two robbers began firing their guns as soon as they entered a pawn shop. The owner and his son returned fire. One of the robbers was shot in the arm; both later were arrested. The shop owner's statement said it all: "If we did not have our guns, we would have had several people dead here."

Baton Rouge, La.: At 5:45 a.m., a crack addict kicked in the back door of a house and went in. The attacker was fatally shot as he charged toward the homeowner. What advice would gun control advocates have given these victims? Should they have behaved passively? Unfortunately, by making it difficult for law-abiding people to get the most effective tool to defend themselves, gun control often puts victims' lives in jeopardy.


These are a bit dated but valid none the less.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 06:43 PM

Dear oh dear, are we returning to fear and paranoia?
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:03 PM

View Postscotto, on 08 August 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Dear oh dear, are we returning to fear and paranoia?

No, we're on topic talking about armed citizens.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:41 PM

Yes....fear and killing, everyone's friends.
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:49 PM

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Farmer fired gun 'in defence'
Phoebe Wearne, The West Australian
August 8, 2012, 5:19 am

A 74-year-old farmer who shot a young man at his Bakers Hill property last year faced aggressive threats such as "you're dead, Santa Claus" before he fired his rifle, a Perth court was told yesterday.

Lachlan Crowe is on trial in the District Court for causing unlawful grievous bodily harm to Jake Beau Bettridge, 21, at his farm on April 21.

Mr Crowe admitted shooting twice towards Mr Bettridge, of Bayswater, but pleaded not guilty, claiming he acted in self-defence and was protecting his home from invasion.

The defence also disputes whether Mr Bettridge's arm injuries were grievous bodily harm.

The jury was told the shooting was after Mr Bettridge and his friend, Arron Steven Humphries, drove on to Mr Crowe's property at dusk to confront him about Mr Crowe running over Mr Humphries' dog.[continued]


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:54 PM

hmmm. so? Shouldn't we await the outcome of the trial?
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 05:05 PM

View Postscotto, on 09 August 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

hmmm. so? Shouldn't we await the outcome of the trial?

Here it is:

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Farmer who shot man walks free

REBECCA TRIGGER, The West Australian
August 9, 2012, 12:48 pm

A 74-year-old farmer who shot a man at his Bakers Hill property has walked free after being found not guilty of Grievous Bodily Harm.

Mr Lachlan Crowe was emotional as he left the District Court today. When asked if he believed justice had been done, he said: "I hope so".

Mr Crowe shot Mr Jake Beau Bettridge with a .22 gauge Winchester rifle on April 21 last year. [continued]

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 07:50 AM

View PostRoderick, on 09 August 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Here it is:

So the law, as it stands, is doing a good job?
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