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#21 User is offline   Roderick 

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 10:57 PM

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Using the car's cigarette lighter while driving distracts you in many ways:
Physical distraction is caused by handling the lighter and cigarette while driving. For example, removing your hand from the steering wheel to get a cigarette and the lighter, to ash or stub out the butt.
Visual distraction is caused by the amount of time you have your eyes off the road.
Cognitive distraction refers to lapses in attention and judgement. This happens when you have to perform two mental tasks at the same time. Lighting a smoke competes with the demands of driving, with your attention often changing from driving to the cigarette. This results in unsafe driving and increases the risk of a crash.


Paraphrased from the Victorian site.

Obviously smoking in cars is a danger not only to the smoker but to other road users.
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What is the difference between a hands free phone and a wireless?
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:45 AM

View PostRoderick, on 10 November 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

The science is not all in, simply because all stuations and road conditions haven't been looked at.
What is the difference between using a 'hands free' etc and a wireless?

Wireless ?
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:36 AM

View Postscotto, on 11 November 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:

Wireless ?

Wireless aka Radio, frequently still used by truck drivers and also in some cars.
Can be as distracting as mobile phones, which are just another form of wireless transmitter.

Both require one to do something other than concentrate on driving, as does the car radio and the cassette/disc player fitted to many vehicles.

One of the more distracting devices fitted these days is the On-board Computer and to adjust some functions I pull to the side of the road and stop although on some roads I just stop in the middle of the road.

12 months ago my wife bought me a sat-nav system; this extremely distracting device has a display that mounts either on the dash or the windscreen as well as an intrusive audio function, I have never used it beyond a few trips that convinced me that looking at a map whilst driving was stupid and dangerous.

One wonders why they are legal.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:11 AM

View PostRoderick, on 11 November 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

Wireless aka Radio, frequently still used by truck drivers and also in some cars.
Can be as distracting as mobile phones, which are just another form of wireless transmitter.

Both require one to do something other than concentrate on driving, as does the car radio and the cassette/disc player fitted to many vehicles.

One of the more distracting devices fitted these days is the On-board Computer and to adjust some functions I pull to the side of the road and stop although on some roads I just stop in the middle of the road.

12 months ago my wife bought me a sat-nav system; this extremely distracting device has a display that mounts either on the dash or the windscreen as well as an intrusive audio function, I have never used it beyond a few trips that convinced me that looking at a map whilst driving was stupid and dangerous.

One wonders why they are legal.

Good point - haven't seen any science on this. Could be a problem - but perhaps is used much less frequently, and yuo can't text on them [I assume] as you can a phone.

I agree with the sat-navs - very distracting, I've got one in my car but have only used it twice.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:54 AM

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On the above road, Wilcannia to Cobar, NSW. I doubt that using a mobile phone would distract from much, the normal 100K/h speed limit would also seem a bit restrictive, annoying and tempting :D .
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:25 AM

View PostRoderick, on 14 November 2012 - 06:54 AM, said:

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On the above road, Wilcannia to Cobar, NSW. I doubt that using a mobile phone would distract from much, the normal 100K/h speed limit would also seem a bit restrictive, annoying and tempting :D .

I know what you mean... but using a phone still degrads the attention you can pay the road. Who knows when a roo or emu will decide to pop over?
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:27 AM

Here's another,Posted Image

Glen Innes, NSW. The sign reads 'High Pedestrian Activity'.

Tho 40 limit is 24/7 but around the corner (ahead, to left and right) the road is narrower, there is also centre parking and the speed limit is 50.

Local lads accelerate to 80 in this area so that they can say that they have exceeded the limit by 100%, us older and more staid people only claim 50%.

Night activity:
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Next time I get a chance I'll take a snap when the area is busy.
Which should illustrate why the 40 limit is dangerously high at times.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:46 AM

yes, it's sometimes odd. Also, it depends on the enforcement - I was once booked for barely rolling through a stop sign on a long weekend Monday morning, on a totally deserted country town street. To add to the comedy effect, while the cop was actually lecturing me about my transgression, someone did a four wheel drift through the same stop sign and headed the other way. The cop didn't even turn around to see what was happening.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:11 AM

View Postscotto, on 14 November 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

yes, it's sometimes odd. Also, it depends on the enforcement - I was once booked for barely rolling through a stop sign on a long weekend Monday morning, on a totally deserted country town street. To add to the comedy effect, while the cop was actually lecturing me about my transgression, someone did a four wheel drift through the same stop sign and headed the other way. The cop didn't even turn around to see what was happening.


Funny things do happen. I was on a vintage car rally some 40 years ago and we stopped, overnight, at a hotel in Scone.
One of my mates was very late and I walked out of the car park behind the hotel just as he was driving in.
He stopped, across the footpath, to speak to me and just then a local constable (off duty) came out of the pub and then booked the mate for obstructing the footpath.

He would have had to come from Sydney if he'd attended Court so opted to cop a small fine.

Maybe the beer was sour :D .
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:31 AM

Here's another spot where using a mobile phone would pose a hazard!!

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Far western NSW.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

View PostRoderick, on 14 November 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

Here's another spot where using a mobile phone would pose a hazard!!

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Far western NSW.

Not a hazard... a miracle.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:42 PM

View PostRoderick, on 14 November 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Funny things do happen. I was on a vintage car rally some 40 years ago and we stopped, overnight, at a hotel in Scone.
One of my mates was very late and I walked out of the car park behind the hotel just as he was driving in.
He stopped, across the footpath, to speak to me and just then a local constable (off duty) came out of the pub and then booked the mate for obstructing the footpath.

He would have had to come from Sydney if he'd attended Court so opted to cop a small fine.

Maybe the beer was sour :D .

I like the bit where you conflate power tripping fuck head cops and laws that have to deal with both cities (where most people live) and the most uninhabited areas outside the polar regions.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:14 PM

View PostNotFrogman, on 14 November 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

I like the bit where you conflate power tripping fuck head cops and laws that have to deal with both cities (where most people live) and the most uninhabited areas outside the polar regions.

Thank you, Frog, it's nice to be appreciated.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:29 PM

It must be nice to be that oblivious.

Ignorance is bliss, correct?
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:02 PM

View PostNotFrogman, on 14 November 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

It must be nice to be that oblivious.

Ignorance is bliss, correct?

Of course it is bliss; enjoy.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

View PostRoderick, on 14 November 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Here's another,Posted Image

Glen Innes, NSW. The sign reads 'High Pedestrian Activity'.

What the hell are those pedestrians on the sign doing, the moonwalk? The text on the sign is also too small.

I think the speed limit should be more in keeping with the activity times.

Here's another example.

Near here, there is a 40 km/h school zone. Which would be reasonable if the school was open all the time. They had another permanent 40 km/h school zone a kilometre away. The school closed last year. They finally took the signs down a few weeks ago. It is more usual for school zones in Victoria to operate between 8 am-9.30 am and 2.30 pm-4 pm.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:39 AM

View PostRoderick, on 14 November 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Maybe the beer was sour :D .

Or second hand. Where exactly do the drains in the urinals end up?
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