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Posted 02 November 2012 - 01:51 PM

The Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia (herein after SSAA) has just started a new range at "Hardacres" 676 Fleetwood Rd., Baldersleigh, NSW.
Provision will be made for pistol, shotgun and rifle shooting.
Rifle shooting will be out to 1,000 yards and will fill a long felt need among long range shooters for a decent range.

There are pictures of the property and details, size etc., on Hardacres

Native ground animals include kangaroos, wallabies, wombats and probably water rats and assorted lizards and snakes. Unfortunately there will be a share of foxes but they will probably get short shift.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:21 PM

Target shooting seems to be one of the safest sports in the world; and therefore eminently suitable for children as they have virtually nil chance of being injured.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:29 AM

So will the pistol range just outside Amidale move to this place?
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:49 AM

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So will the pistol range just outside Amidale move to this place?

Don't know but don't think it likely as the Armidale range is handy to the town.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:13 AM

But maybe not alwaysso safe?

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Chris Kyle, who wrote a book called American Sniper about his military service from 1999 to 2009, was found dead at the Rough Creek Lodge shooting range on Saturday, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, quoting Erath County sheriff Tommy Bryant.

A second man, named as Chad Littlefield, was also killed.

A third man, identified as 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh, has been charged with two counts of murder.

Local police said both victims had been shot at close range.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:48 AM

View Postscotto, on 04 February 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

But maybe not alwaysso safe?

As there are an estimated 100,000++ ranges in the US and as this incident could have taken place just about anywhere, then I don't think that it is relevant to the fact that shooting ranges are very, very safe places.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:04 AM

View PostRoderick, on 04 February 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

As there are an estimated 100,000++ ranges in the US and as this incident could have taken place just about anywhere, then I don't think that it is relevant to the fact that shooting ranges are very, very safe places.

I think it's relevant. You can't say that something like this has nothing to do with some of the people you might find at a shooting range. Not that I'm making the case that they should be shut down or anything.

Maybe it's got more to do withthe mental helath angle regarding gun and shooting licenses?
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:06 AM

View Postscotto, on 04 February 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

I think it's relevant. You can't say that something like this has nothing to do with some of the people you might find at a shooting range. Not that I'm making the case that they should be shut down or anything.

Maybe it's got more to do withthe mental helath angle regarding gun and shooting licenses?

What licences?
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:24 PM

View PostRoderick, on 04 February 2013 - 09:06 AM, said:

What licences?

Well, if a licence is a necessity for owning a gun, perhaps a licence should not be granted in certain circumstances. Seems obvious.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

View Postscotto, on 04 February 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Well, if a licence is a necessity for owning a gun, perhaps a licence should not be granted in certain circumstances. Seems obvious.

Not obvious at all as in most of the US licences are not required, and it would appear that in this shooting, even though it occurred on a range, it did not occur during organized range activities, therefore the venue is irrelevant; it could have occurred anywhere.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

View PostRoderick, on 04 February 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Not obvious at all as in most of the US licences are not required, and it would appear that in this shooting, even though it occurred on a range, it did not occur during organized range activities, therefore the venue is irrelevant; it could have occurred anywhere.

So the free access to a wide variety of guns within arms reach has absolutely nothing to do with a shooting?
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:30 PM

View PostRoderick, on 04 February 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Not obvious at all as in most of the US licences are not required, and it would appear that in this shooting, even though it occurred on a range, it did not occur during organized range activities, therefore the venue is irrelevant; it could have occurred anywhere.

There we go - another change right there. Licence required; subject to checks.

It happened at a range. Seems relevant to me. Ranges are supposedly 'safe.'
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:22 PM

View Postscotto, on 04 February 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

There we go - another change right there. Licence required; subject to checks.

It happened at a range. Seems relevant to me. Ranges are supposedly 'safe.'

Ranges are safe, in fact they are safer than suburban parks, football fields, tennis courts and even ping-pong venues.
Just what difference does a licence make?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:28 AM

Not so safe you can't get murdered there, though.

You really don't understand the idea of background or mental health checks for licences?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

View Postscotto, on 05 February 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

Not so safe you can't get murdered there, though
There's been a lot more murdered in parks etc., than on ranges.
You really don't understand the idea of background or mental health checks for licences?

Not so safe you can't get murdered there, though.
There's been a lot more murdered in parks etc., than on ranges
I fully understand the idea, but just how it can be fairly implemented escapes me.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:24 PM

View PostRoderick, on 05 February 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

Not so safe you can't get murdered there, though.

I fully understand the idea, but just how it can be fairly implemented escapes me..

You've misquoted me above.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:43 PM

View Postscotto, on 05 February 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

You've misquoted me above.

Sorry about that, I had a bit of trouble with the sending and thought that I'd corrected it.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa :(
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:03 AM

View PostRoderick, on 05 February 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Sorry about that, I had a bit of trouble with the sending and thought that I'd corrected it.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa :(

Fair enough, no problem... I had to read it a couple of times to make sure I really didn't say that!

The implementation would have to be very careful, there's no doubt about that.
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